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Hi, zeteibao: Did you ever hear from Dupont about the serial number of that Fidelio FP? There is one for sale on eBay even as I write (#22), and the seller even sent me personally a picture of the serial number on the pen's clip. The photograph is not good enough for me to decipher what that number is, but I do notice that it's engraved not at the top of the clip but at the bottom! Should I suspect this pen is a fake? The asking price seems to be a bit low; it's USD$149. Don, 'Sir Nibs'.
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Hi, zeteibao: Did you ever hear from Dupont about the serial number of that Fidelio FP? There is one for sale on eBay even as I write (#22), and the seller even sent me personally a picture of the serial number on the pen's clip. The photograph is not good enough for me to decipher what that number is, but I do notice that it's engraved not at the top of the clip but at the bottom! Should I suspect this pen is a fake? The asking price seems to be a bit low; it's USD$149. Don, 'Sir Nibs' I don't see anything that would say fake BUT the Fidelio is not one of the versions that used Chinese Laquer so that came from some other pen. The body is a very nice resin but not Laque de Chine.
Lovely lighter! There are a bevy of S.T Dupont lighter fakes out there. It seems the only true way to tell if one is a fake is the look of the Serial numbers. The numbers should not be aligned. Each number is hand stamped separately.
Somewhere I read that if one calls Dupont and give them the serial number, they will tell you if it is real or fake. No one seems to know of an online site of Dupont serial numbers for dating purposes.
From what I can see of your serial numbers, they don't look perfectly align and definitely not evenly spaced - the real deal. 'The only true way to know that I'm aware of is this: The serial number on a real Dupont lighter is hand stamped, number by number and so the numbers will not be perfectly aligned. That is, each number will be slightly out of line with the others (or at least some of them will be). Most fakes are machine made and so the numbers/letters are perfectly spaced and aligned as if done by machine.' Here a little something on trying to determine the age of one: - Susan.
I've not found other guides out there about this online, but I do know that there's ways to date a dupont lighter. The real question is what time frame each of these elements indicates. The first thing is that older duponts tend to say 'de Paris' rather than just 'Paris'. They also tend to have shorter 6-digit serial numbers rather than the 7-digit ones found on newer models.
Older lighters will almost always have the older large square dupont emblem with 'ST Dupont' spelled out at the bottom and the circle with wings above it. Older Ligne 1 lighters made before 1984 have an automatic gas shutoff when you open the flint chamber. This is supposedly not the case on lighters made after 1984, but I'd like some more confirmation on this. I've personally handled 4 ligne 1 lighters and all of them had the automatic shutoff, although it was somewhat busted on one of them, only shutting off if you hold down the flint chamber release button, likely just from wear / age, but that lighter otherwise functions fine so it wasn't worth it to repair it.
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Where did you get it from? It should obviously be made of genuine materials (silver, black chinese laquer, etc.). It should have all of the stamps and trade marks on the bottom. It should accept the genuine refills tubes. Check under the screw in cover on the bottom and sse if there is a color present.
This will indicate which refill it accepts. The ping, depending on age and condition should sound clear and true. Sorry, but I don't know how else to describe it. If you paid less than $100 for it, it is almost certainly fake. Especially if you bought it on ebay.
Actually lots of the fakes are quite hefty and good quality lighters. They also generally have correct markings such as 'Made in France' or whatever (counterfeiters can read too). The only true way to know that I'm aware of is this: The serial number on a real Dupont lighter is hand stamped, number by number and so the numbers will not be perfectly aligned. That is, each number will be slightly out of line with the others (or at least some of them will be).
Most fakes are machine made and so the numbers/letters are perfectly spaced and aligned as if done by machine. Click to expand.
Actually lots of the fakes are quite hefty and good quality lighters. They also generally have correct markings such as 'Made in France' or whatever (counterfeiters can read too). The only true way to know that I'm aware of is this: The serial number on a real Dupont lighter is hand stamped, number by number and so the numbers will not be perfectly aligned. That is, each number will be slightly out of line with the others (or at least some of them will be). Most fakes are machine made and so the numbers/letters are perfectly spaced and aligned as if done by machine. No yeah, obviously there are good fakes out there. All of the fakes I have seen I have been able to tell, even the better ones.
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But then again, I was comparing it, rather then looking at it blindly.
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